Heathcock Genealogy Database - Person Sheet
Heathcock Genealogy Database - Person Sheet
NameCharles Gilbert Lay 
, G Uncle
, G UncleBirth18 Dec 1889, La Vernia, Wilson Co TX
Death5 Aug 1958, Dallas Co TX Age: 68
BurialConcrete Cemetery, in La Vernia, Wilson Co TX
FatherFrancis Marion Lay (1855-1918)
MotherNancy Jane “Nannie” Green (1861-1931)
Spouses
Birth29 Mar 1893, TX
Death31 Oct 1912, Big Spring, Howard Co TX Age: 19
BurialMt. Olive Cemetery, Big Springs, Howard Co TX
FatherWalter Pike
MotherSarah Fite
ChildrenPhillip Richard (1911-1911)
Charles Gilbert (1912-1976)
Birth31 Dec 1880, Texas226
Death30 Nov 1947, Dallas, Dallas Co TX Age: 66
BurialGrove Hill Memorial Park
FatherJoe M. Phillips
MotherBrazzie Knowles
Marriage1 Dec 1923, Bexar Co TX227
Notes for Charles Gilbert Lay
SSN 457-09-8855
Charles Gilbert Lay lived in Big Spring, Howard Co TX and in the 1910 census, he is listed as a single lodger (Charlie Lay) in the home of Frank Stinson and his wife Ruth. At the time he was a painter and worked in a machine shop. This was a rooming house, as there were 16 lodgers, all men between 21 and 48. They all worked for the Rail Road.
Charles married Minnie Pike, who was born to Walter Pike and Sarah Fite on March 29, 1893 in Texas. The were apparently married in 1910, after the census had been taken. On 5 Aug 1911, Minnie had a premature son, who was stillborn. They had a second son, Charles Gilbert Lay Jr., on Oct 9, 1912 and then Minnie died just a few weeks later on Oct 31, 1912 in Big Springs, Howard, Texas. She was only 19 years, 7 months, and 3 days old. She was buried at Mt. Olive Cemetery, Big Springs, Howard Co, TX. Charles Gilbert Lay Jr. was raised by his grandmother, who later adopted him.
Charlie Gilbert Lay was a Sgt. in the U. S. Marine Corps in World War I.224 At the December 1917 Muster of the 61st Company, Marine Barracks, Navy Yard, New York, he was listed as a Private who enlisted 5 June 1917.228 On June 28, 1918, he was mentioned in the obituary of his brother, Francis Marion Lay, as being in the United States Marines in Quantico, Virginia.229 At the December 1918 Muster he is listed as a Sergeant with Company “I”, 13th Regiment, U. S. Marines, American Expeditionary Forces.228 The “Remarks column” has the notation “21 to 31 on Det-D at Coutras, Gironde.”
Widower Charles married Orrye (Orrie) Phillips, who had previously been married to Theodore D. Richards, in 1923 in Big Spring TX.
C. G. Lay (age 39) and wife Orrie Lay (age 49) were enumerated in Forth Worth, Tarrant Co TX, in 1930. C. G. Lay was 19 at the time of his first marriage (1910) and Orrie Lay was 20 at the time of her first marriage (1901). C. G. Lay was a business agent with a printer’s union and Orrie Lay was not working at the time of the census.
In the 1940 census of Dallas, Dallas Co TX, Charles and Orrie were listed along with nephew and niece James and Elaine Slay. It is indicated that James and Elaine Slay lived in Miller Co AR in 1935. Charles Gilbert was a painter working for a building contracter.
Texas Death Index, 1903-200013
Name: Charlie G Lay
Death Date: 5 Aug 1958
Death County: Dallas
Certificate: 43660
As shown by his death certificate (see multimedia file), Charles Gilbert Lay lived at 906 Jester Street in Dallas. He died at the Veteran’s Administration Hospital and his body was removed for burial at Lavernia. His parents were given as Francis F. M. Lay and Nannie J. Weems (actually it was Green) and his profession was given as painter (actually it was printer). This information was incorrect in several aspects but it was apparently given by the Registra of the VAH, rather than by a family member.
Charles Gilbert Lay lived in Big Spring, Howard Co TX and in the 1910 census, he is listed as a single lodger (Charlie Lay) in the home of Frank Stinson and his wife Ruth. At the time he was a painter and worked in a machine shop. This was a rooming house, as there were 16 lodgers, all men between 21 and 48. They all worked for the Rail Road.
Charles married Minnie Pike, who was born to Walter Pike and Sarah Fite on March 29, 1893 in Texas. The were apparently married in 1910, after the census had been taken. On 5 Aug 1911, Minnie had a premature son, who was stillborn. They had a second son, Charles Gilbert Lay Jr., on Oct 9, 1912 and then Minnie died just a few weeks later on Oct 31, 1912 in Big Springs, Howard, Texas. She was only 19 years, 7 months, and 3 days old. She was buried at Mt. Olive Cemetery, Big Springs, Howard Co, TX. Charles Gilbert Lay Jr. was raised by his grandmother, who later adopted him.
Charlie Gilbert Lay was a Sgt. in the U. S. Marine Corps in World War I.224 At the December 1917 Muster of the 61st Company, Marine Barracks, Navy Yard, New York, he was listed as a Private who enlisted 5 June 1917.228 On June 28, 1918, he was mentioned in the obituary of his brother, Francis Marion Lay, as being in the United States Marines in Quantico, Virginia.229 At the December 1918 Muster he is listed as a Sergeant with Company “I”, 13th Regiment, U. S. Marines, American Expeditionary Forces.228 The “Remarks column” has the notation “21 to 31 on Det-D at Coutras, Gironde.”
Widower Charles married Orrye (Orrie) Phillips, who had previously been married to Theodore D. Richards, in 1923 in Big Spring TX.
C. G. Lay (age 39) and wife Orrie Lay (age 49) were enumerated in Forth Worth, Tarrant Co TX, in 1930. C. G. Lay was 19 at the time of his first marriage (1910) and Orrie Lay was 20 at the time of her first marriage (1901). C. G. Lay was a business agent with a printer’s union and Orrie Lay was not working at the time of the census.
In the 1940 census of Dallas, Dallas Co TX, Charles and Orrie were listed along with nephew and niece James and Elaine Slay. It is indicated that James and Elaine Slay lived in Miller Co AR in 1935. Charles Gilbert was a painter working for a building contracter.
Texas Death Index, 1903-200013
Name: Charlie G Lay
Death Date: 5 Aug 1958
Death County: Dallas
Certificate: 43660
As shown by his death certificate (see multimedia file), Charles Gilbert Lay lived at 906 Jester Street in Dallas. He died at the Veteran’s Administration Hospital and his body was removed for burial at Lavernia. His parents were given as Francis F. M. Lay and Nannie J. Weems (actually it was Green) and his profession was given as painter (actually it was printer). This information was incorrect in several aspects but it was apparently given by the Registra of the VAH, rather than by a family member.
Notes for Minnie (Spouse 1)
Minnie died of Phlegmasia alba dolens, a form of deep vein thrombosis commonly seen during pregnancy and in mothers who have just given birth.230
Notes for Orrye A. (Spouse 2)
The name came to me from my mother, but she did not know any more except that names of the two sons. The unusual name is confirmed by the 1930 census, which names her as “Orrie”. In that census, it is reported that she was 49 (ten years older than her husband) and that she was 20 at the time of her first marriage, which would have been in 1901. Charles Gilbert (recorded in the 1930 census as C G Lay) was recorded as being 39 and 19 at the time of his first marriage, which would then have been 1910. Orrie was born in Texas, her father in Georgia, and her mother in Texas.
I have been unable to find any other records of Orrie. My mother told me that her name was Phillips but I don’t know if that was a maiden name or the name of her first husband. The two sons were born in Howard Co TX in 1911 and 1912, so they could well have been out of the home by the time of the 1930 census. I have not been able to find anyone in this family in the 1920 census.
Clayton Heathcock, September 2010
More information about Orrye was provided in July 2012 by Jeanene Daniels.226 Her first husband was Theodore Richards:
1920 Howard Co TX Census
T. D. Richards head, 46 TX AL AL
Ora wife 43 TX TN unknown
Nina dau 23 TX TX TX
Lela dau 17 TX TX TX
living among some Phillips families
She died in Dallas on 30 Nov 1947 and her death certificate indicated that she was a married housewife and lived at 906 N. Jester in Dallas. Information was provided by C. G. Lay. See multimedia for death certificate.
I have been unable to find any other records of Orrie. My mother told me that her name was Phillips but I don’t know if that was a maiden name or the name of her first husband. The two sons were born in Howard Co TX in 1911 and 1912, so they could well have been out of the home by the time of the 1930 census. I have not been able to find anyone in this family in the 1920 census.
Clayton Heathcock, September 2010
More information about Orrye was provided in July 2012 by Jeanene Daniels.226 Her first husband was Theodore Richards:
1920 Howard Co TX Census
T. D. Richards head, 46 TX AL AL
Ora wife 43 TX TN unknown
Nina dau 23 TX TX TX
Lela dau 17 TX TX TX
living among some Phillips families
She died in Dallas on 30 Nov 1947 and her death certificate indicated that she was a married housewife and lived at 906 N. Jester in Dallas. Information was provided by C. G. Lay. See multimedia for death certificate.